Liu Zhengcheng says Calligraphy --- About --- high standard series of interviews with the book Nothing vulgar eyes, into the vulgar eye who will book non-high.
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Time: April 15, 2008
PM Venue: Bamboo Cottage
Interviewer: popular guest medialei
non-high book discussion, to begin.
Liu Zhengcheng:
how's going children?
Medialei:
is this: The first thing, ah, is the three of us had Xiang, gift, and I dinner. During the meeting, chatting, and I have wanted to mobilize Xiang, do one of his interviews. He said you do not do me, I suggest you, the large topic, do the bulk. I can feel that come with these In a series of things happen, many heavyweights have been unable to bear, to speak.
we are negotiable on a stir we feel able to talk about the level of a guide to these people, we want to do a series, are the same topic.
popular guest:
all about the standards, standards of beauty for the present chaotic situation of calligraphy. now pick up the brush and can write Chinese characters, calligraphy and are considered to . ideological confusion after ah, resulting in a lot of strange phenomena.
Medialei:
would like to use this network platform, outside the system in Calligraphy. to the network as the main course, we hope that the Chinese Books French Open This can be compared a number of grand from us off the ground. to set off a nationwide debate about the standard big discussions Calligraphy.
you visited our program first.
Liu Zhengcheng:
Cai Shunong article is representative. in which the views of Mr. Shao Bingren, clearly against the Wang Yong said. because he is vice chairman of China Calligraphers Association, so he would influence surface is relatively large, with a considerable representation.
just two days I was writing calligraphy comment Xu Wei, Xu Wei, in his very young to say a very famous words: important feature, that is, mm highbrow.
a calligraphy us that he certainly has his work originality and forward-looking, he was walking in front of all calligraphers. only this quality, can become a time representative calligraphers.
such as Wang, who just came out is the At the time the person is not accepted by all. to accept his is lagging behind, so will the That is the The second poem, article third, fourth painting. He, as in calligraphy from the high that the first is the calligraphy, the painting that he did not care, he is basically a drawing for some rice ah, ah some money or something.
The result, he died six years later, dao tapped him, ah, terrible! Yuan said that his poetry, prose, we are the first Ming Dynasty. said his calligraphy on. Wang Shi-zhen, who's next after Seven. He appreciated Xu Wei poetry, literature that ; dao that the first poem; to Shi Tao, eight, Banqiao, Qi, that is painted first, they have become > ha ha hh, Kazakhstan is a historical process.
Liu Zhengcheng:
of course, is walking in front of Xu Wei. This is the aesthetic understanding in advance, ahead of his contemporaries will not be recognized. Therefore, ; high
book Nothing vulgar eyes, into the vulgar eye who will book non-high .
we need to strengthen the learning Ha! (laughter)
popular off:
high book which not join the secular eyes!
Medialei:
and the funny thing is, everyone has their own children of a cell. From this child look down box, it is unsightly. rises, not all people can understand the highest level there are differences, there are interesting differences.
popular off:
It seems that time goes a step further than Liu Bingsen. Liu Bingsen time is mention of the ;, but he is a confused mess that you wipe it, you are not a traditional pen method.
Some time ago we had a post, is to do that Zhang Yuxiang. some friends to stubbornly believe that Zhang Yuxiang strokes do not know in the brush on the children it has not started.
Medialei:
this post is what I do, in fact, the purpose of this post I do, it is the want of attention Zhang Yuxiang in the pen, reflection and exploration on the strokes . the result was that he did not understand, writing, ha ha hh
popular off:
key is the starting point of calligraphy, the threshold for what child? the understanding that we are not the same.
Online has a post yesterday, is the stone open tomorrow Quan, Zhu also accepted three new interpretation they think that the bottom line is too low. is a leading cadre, is a man, even if it usually has no knowledge, just dare to pick up a brush to write the two-pen, they all become calligraphy.
evaluation of the non-calligraphy calligraphy too many factors. The man's status, fame, even if it is a movie actor, comedian, wrote the two pens, but also calligraphy. we do not give the most basic calligraphy set a threshold of children, that is, to what extent, be considered as understand calligraphy . You write the word can be called calligraphy.
there is Chinese calligraphy can not be divorced? our views are not the same, tomorrow? �� bear back? I think that calligraphy can be out of character. because some of the calligraphy in the form like wow what a large grass, we have been unable to read, and is already a pure art. In the case of read, as long as a pen, a Mexican, there is what expressive lines, they can become independent art. Zhu Xinjian, what he advocates can not be separated on the characters, it is not from the Chinese calligraphy.
The result, lead to such a situation now appears that the Pan-calligraphy, calligraphy everywhere, what can be called the level of calligraphy. < br> Medialei:
caused this mess now one of the most direct reason is probably the selection of the Ninth National Art Exhibition. because the other has always been the kind of controversy, a matter of opinion, merits and demerits, this is normal. However, developing countries identified by some scale, it will be the following capabilities that are not to judge, while eager to be successful pursuit of blind people. grasp this scale, is able to see the benefits very quickly. It suddenly chaos.
popular guest:
there, I am afraid, and the br> I think that in this range in the calligrapher, who wrote the good, who is badly written, we are very clear. For instance, Beijing, Tianjin, where, who's Weibei well written, who Zhuanli grass Writing well we all know has an agenda, it is not necessary controversy. have just stepped into the threshold, of course, he did not know.
the same in other fields, music, who composed well, Peking Opera community, who sings well, is not obvious so! Mei Lanfang, Ma Lianliang, Shang Xiaoyun hh, very clear out there.
calligraphy, really get to the next level, is very clear. like the young boy that story, a Wang to our health to go, went away, wrote a piece on the wall characters, young boy went up, scrape it, and then rewrite it himself. He was very proud of that, and Wang is not much difference. to Wang from the our health back after such a look, and says: This is how the words written in this way, I was drunk must stop drinking? offer great shame! What does that mean? Wang thought he was pretty good, the real thing, and King can be seen, not the same vision.
this young boy, but also stop giving Xie wrote, something all right to write the total. can not reply to his letters Xie. Xie hit once, he to ask, I'll give you wrote so many letters Why are you not give me a letter? In fact his letter have nothing important thing is to let Xie see, my word how? want Xie praise ! (laughter) Xie knew he was narrow-minded, and finally say it out altogether, your words Yeah, not as good as your father!
This example shows that in this group, the idea is similar. in an era in one level, such as Beijing, who wrote a good point, who wrote almost, is a spectrum between each other. say you are well-written Calligraphy Deputy you, no one would think so.
then Why is this cause confusion? With respect, this confusion is caused by the publicity department. an association who went to the chairman, who is to become vice chairman, should be according to your ability, and are elected by the peers The. Propaganda Department, what he is responsible for general candidates each recommendation, the recommendation list, and it broke. Propaganda Department of the originally well-intentioned, I want to select both ability and integrity of the people there. this thing if the department by the Propaganda Department of the Arts to manage, much better. because the art department and art often contact information. can be managed is not the art department, the cadres and departments to manage. cadres at how can I understand the art with an expert? not. He can only listen were recommended, all over the leadership to listen to recommendations. how can ordinary people to see the lead then, an officer can see is some of the .
propaganda department if the election is the party's propaganda cadres, must choose the standard, there is no problem. art, hard to say. You can not possibly to the Propaganda Department of the Arts with the cadres are experts. he did not may ah, unlike in the past, is the Mao Dun and Guo, HE Jing, Wang Meng such people as the leadership of the relevant literature and art, they certainly know the ropes of the. of calligraphy, Mao Zedong's most knowledgeable, he asked Wuliang eat, called him , very professional, so I am very enlightening. So the charge of leading cadres is very important, if his lack of professional training of calligraphy, he can only like those tacky.
? gun Shi Xing Wang? that literature and art has changed into officialdom. and often do, this well-written, he can curry favor in the attitude that a particular skill is not official, and even easy to be caught wrong. To do so would be more finished. Finally it up, These problems are not possible, the people are not wrong, but he calligraphy wrong with it! (laughter) In this way, put this matter mix of the Well, people do not know who to listen to the. Eventually, even the artist doubt myself, hey, what I wrote on this not right? say you a high level, how can you not President, the governing Oh?
This confusion is caused by a major literary standard sociological reasons. So Comrade Deng Xiaoping said , to the separation of party and government. Literature and Art Association can have the party's leadership, but art experts must be done within the party, can not easily arrange to take care of the treatment level administrative cadres. to Calligraphy of the leading cadres, the leadership of the Propaganda Department generally To specifically asked, do not you go to the association after the writing, to concentrate on party work to do. In fact, it was impossible it! he wrote to the exhibition, who would not cheer, but also sell a good price. This is his administrative status of the decision, there is a model, here and in the community to follow, that he that is a good thing. most of the people and no ability to distinguish the art, can only see the Association's professional confuse the thing.
who talk face to face advice in front of Wang Yong, Xiang comrades who, if he is not Calligraphers Association Vice-Chairman, he said the newspaper would not have registered to go. Just because he is the Deputy to Gordon to press up, and thought it was a guiding opinion. art system needs reform, colorectal disease here .30 years, the economic system after the reform, there have been what a difference it! only our literary institutions, in 60 years Without reform.
popular guest:
So, the Chinese Calligraphers Association also has a transformation process. just been formed, these are experts. Slowly, more and more non-experts, and less and less professional has.
Liu Zhengcheng:
start-up time is a message from Mao to write it! Sha Menghai, Lin Sanzhi, Qi Gong, Zhao hh, are leading members of the Well!
art system the need to reform, but also a process. early days, we need to consolidate political power, the Communist Party to promote the idea of publicity and literary work, regardless of family. a few years later, the social environment and social needs changed, publicity is publicity , art is art, both the internal laws of requirements are different. Art is a productive Yeah, it is the country's soft power. The literary development of productive forces is the law that need it. If you do not press it with the rules, then it certainly was restricted literary productivity up. This is why Wu is not the dissolution of the association, then, art no hope.
this thing has good intentions. What you so much mass organizations, human so much. I sent a party of the workers, for your service to coordinate your contradictions, the original intention was good. you do the work of the party and you're right. you are the one to become a calligrapher, and and Vice-Chairman of the Association. This thing messed this thing!
Calligraphers Association of Henan Province recently general online discussion, come up with 18 Vice President! have a lot of real experts are not all channels are in a Propaganda Department of the Vice President recommended. This is broken, too serious thing. above, the organization department, also nothing wrong, what is wrong with it? he sent, and it is a good man, there is no corruption, there is no theft. However, On national elegant art, talking about standards of beauty when it comes to literary development of productive forces, we have a little more seriously.
I did have a sharp point, and some leading comrades of the view is not the same. In my opinion, the county level, Calligraphy, Calligraphy in the municipal level, is to carry out universal. National Calligraphers Association, is to carry out improvements to raise the overall level. follow Chairman Mao's view, popular, is to improve under the guidance of popularity. Calligraphy engaged in the popularization of your country, who will guide the popularization? The highest increase body should be representative of the commanding heights of national culture institutions.
Liu Zhengcheng:
This is what we have long way to national trade union work, the introduction of a model representative of the advanced elections, good people. Calligraphers of many of our Comrades, before the trade union work is done, Mass Art, and cultural centers, factories Propaganda Department. like me, is the factory before the Propaganda Department, the trade unions out of the thing. It is Calligraphers present this one. in accordance with the set of selected models , choose the advanced means, it certainly would not be elected Xu Wei. (laughter)
Wang Duo said the On the Road ah, that is three to five people in the hills a few remote places which, bubble tea, slowly goods. Today, the situation changed, calligraphy, social progress and public participation, but the aesthetic calligraphy is a skilled work. how can this thing to vote .
popular guest:
to say, these methods of operation, are incompatible with the laws of art, contrary to the law of Art.
Liu Zhengcheng:
You see ah, the Propaganda Department, and the bureaucracy associated text Yamen, to Calligraphy with cadres, recommended President, members list. text associated administrative cadres know nothing about the Vice President to live, the exhibition , you of course adjudicators, and you represent a region or area thing. As there is no professional standard to the matter, and that seems fair. so pushed down to become a hodgepodge of.
experts Well that is relatively high, but also has a number of limitations. an association of twenty thousand members, three, fifty reviewers, yes, right, a hundred reviewers even more, right? is now seven review professional committees, more than three hundred experts! What experts do not post!
what the experts now, there is a age limit is set by the executive branch, and after a six-year-old after he was laid off. say that more than three hundred experts, does not include more than six years old. As a whole, you Changba me? O field, talk about the art of chaos skirr how the standard it?
this Chinese traditional art, and music also not the same. He was not taught early will be able to take a long time of experience, Wang's calligraphy is Xu Peidong, he's a good commentary, as well as Yu, assessment is not bad. But some younger judges, very good people sing folk songs, children given the particularly low point, those who leave, a large, empty theme children gave high marks. Why, those That is three, fifty people, and engage in more than two decades to promote the development of calligraphy have legislation successful. We should conscientiously sum up the experiences which can not be balanced out by politicians skills.
Medialei:
pairs I remember the last time you talked about this issue. review, is a professional, take a long time of experience. Not that you write the word good, there is capacity assessment.
Liu Zhengcheng:
right! you like the Nobel Prize judges, he is very professional, over the years are fixed and that a few people, he will not just Substitution. a literary individual is probably six or seven individual look. for a long time engaged in the kind of work he has His experience, he summed up in the constant, and he is always concerned about the trend. not now, so you come out, and he came up, as do some, are engaged in fast track approach, of course, become increasingly chaotic.
Association is not withdrawn, but the people cited in this clue. him this confusion, is global chaos. He himself is an outsider, it would not write, he can not to confuse you thinking What?
your circle of this consensus, the scale, it was like to play down some people. Instead, he does not want you to understand that we all understand, there is no way he mixed. If people know what is good and what is bad, they still market it?
Medialei:
You are right. a group of people, such as me, who for the most cutting-edge exploratory work, nor is it about to understand, not very like. but at least we do not lightly denied him. Why? We know the reason why these people have this effect in the circle, must have his reason. temporarily do not know, we will try to get to know him, near him, and we hope to clear this little pond water clarification , that we see clearly that does not want to make it muddy.
some people different, is meant to muddy mix of the common people only then to see them as calligraphers.
Medialei:
really so would eliminate a lot of people. Last of the Ninth National Exhibition, online discussions should not take the Calligraphy of the topic. I told a post, I said it at all levels of Calligraphy, is already a vested interest groups. Many people are relying on the job Calligraphy dinner. If you really put Calligraphy to withdraw, and there are a lot of people will lose their jobs! Therefore, withdrawal of Calligraphy, certainly does not work.
Liu Zhengcheng:
Wu less intense criticism, nor is said to be revoked, he said is Yeah division level, where the fight so no one went to the Well. Do not funded by the State wages, the association's funds from contributions and community which settled this way, he would have on the members responsible for it! system is not available there can not, it is a direction of the service problems. The above grant him raise up, of course, to face his top??. He handed in by the following contributions to feed, naturally he will be responsible for the following, in good faith that the face of Association choose national leaders, elected not good. the scope of the village is small, both know, I chose you, you have to for me. then, Anhui, Sichuan, to engage in who engage in the household responsibility system, food will go up once the responsibility is not the same thing! turned out to be the same big pot, we are hungry belly, the system is not the same, engage in household production, and to a year to harvest the so!
Therefore, cultural reform, not optional, this association is not to withdraw. artists also need a contact somewhere else, on the need for international exchanges on the ah. now know, you want to be The Chairman, Deputy Chairman, was first to clear the relationship between propaganda departments. you do not clear the relationship, well-written, no one knows you, the better the more you may be 94 years old, his life is contemporary art and the Chinese came to be together. There is a saying called: the old person, his words are good. He certainly is not because I did not when the Chairman of the United States, the disgruntled, certainly not . He is feeling from the heart, is a love of literature and art of national and expectations.
Medialei:
the first to propose revocation of those who text together Yeah, I remember it was Cao Yu Cao Yu said Hu Qiaomu on the bed The. when he was President of China Federation Yeah!
Liu Zhengcheng:
Wang Meng has been proposed dissolution Writers Association.
popular guest:
They are all very closely.
Liu Zhengcheng:
that withdrawal, this is not nice, is , you step down it! now, they might not know the above, report summary is always done well, the good relations, and the above to think he s good. his official did, here you say well, no use.
Medialei:
Yes, and similar to the Ninth National Exhibition, downtown to this sake, when he and the above report, is still a performance Yes. he saw how much the amount of submissions, an unprecedented number of works into the exhibition, the situation is excellent, very bright.
Liu Zhengcheng:
Yes! not What that little drawback. Look online disclosure, the Audit Commission's review how much money out of violations of law. At least, when you write the summary of these issues to mention it! what problems solved yet? problem is not afraid, who can not make mistakes it? like changed. However, there is no mention so! either online publication, which know what the problem there.
Therefore, this system is very important. so do, how can it not aesthetic standards to disturb it? same person, as Vice President at the time he did not say if he would hit a question mark: how to have the word Xiang? Wang Yong word how? When the Vice President, he spoke to that of an exclamation point: the word has Xiang is confused mess you wipe, Wang Yong you book the word is ugly. (laughter) Yeah, if I was not how I became a Vice-Chairman of Calligraphy? You have how Xiang nor is it even a member? lower than I, of course, it you're wrong, not me wrong with that.
popular guest:
the impact on society is too great, no matter what his people. the people, layman, the general audience, there is no ability to distinguish people who can only see your location. That messed things up a.
Liu Zhengcheng:
So institutional issue is the fundamental problem. Wu to his later years, he was talking about not art, literature and art to talk about his system of art. I feel that central government should seriously listen to his advice.
Medialei:
now think of it really is, let's first generation of national leaders Although it is leading a bunch of uneducated, but they Guoxue background, very good aesthetic cultivation.
Liu Zhengcheng:
uneducated, just below mid-level cadres. above those leaders, which are also very literate. founder of the Communist Party Chen, Qu, more than okay to write that word! Chen, Shen Yinmo criticized the word Yeah the first generation of leaders. Comparison of Mao Zedong's calligraphy is elegant, Shen Yinmo of a number of relatively popular. Zedong did not ask Shen Yinmo dinner, please Wuliang dinner, which got a picture, ah. Wuliang that he appreciated the words, Mao Zedong, art vision High-ah.
However, tastes, and through a historical process is possible. was elegant, not accepted by most people, after a period of time, five years, a hundred years, slowly being accepted was the laity, it is possible, are precedents. the same period, tastes, and is not possible.
Liu Zhengcheng:
Yes, it is a contradiction, there must be an acceptance process. you such as Master Hong Yi's words, and now no one said he did not good. But the same age and his people, it is hard to say where he was the kind of word Fortunately. His word, has the technical skills to the reduction of a few very pure state.
which said art , its influence issues. Guowei earlier, is the study of aesthetics. He studied aesthetics mainly two objects, one is . He made two aesthetic concepts, one is Dodd era of tragedy, comedy theory. tragedy, it is magnificent. Othello, he suspected his wife fornication with others, put her strangled. but he loved his wife, love and jealousy intertwined Finally, he committed suicide. this end, intense shock to the human mind, is a sublime.
another it, beautiful, it is more lyrical, recourse to visual experience. such as the celebration of the Tang emperor Li Bai's palace It is more coordinated, symmetrical, the proportion of the right, looked very beautiful. such as Wang, Zhao Meng? , Dong Qichang the road, described as ;. while the other, he is not visually pleasing, but more exaggerated by the performance of force to move your soul. like Xu Wei, like eight, as Master Hong Yi. You see the passion of anger that Xu Wei; also Fu Hill kind of wild, work; Master Hong Yi that there are not other-worldly air, remove the powder gas, washed Qianhua. He is not a simple cause your vision to reconcile, even pleasure, but rather by creating conflicts, add Great contrast, the formation of visual impact, shock your heart, this is a tragic sublime.
their so-called its structure, its performance ethos that affect your heart, not the visual coordination. This is precisely the aesthetic differences between the two, the two parts can not replace each other. beautiful to not it? that Wang beautiful, he is holy book it! strongly to all good? is not, spam is also strong, it is an acrid odor. poetry, drama, fiction, music, can do this kind of distinction, to take music for bones on the future, it becomes Qiu Mei. Wang is not the word kitsch that blindly pro, he's a into Taiga.
So, art on the factions to engage you like beautiful beautiful, like to engage in magnificent splendor. If you have more than ideas, it would be quite a level of aesthetic experience can be compared with the Literature compete with him. What is Wang Duo, Fu Shan high? or Zhu Zhi Shan, Wen Zheng high? That might be a matter of topic, because when the key on the Arts. Japan had that he has to think of Wang Duo Wang they are higher than the second it! there that Xu Wei's calligraphy, dao said at the time, is higher than the Wu Men, more than Wen Zheng, Wang Chong reputed as the world's people in these two high. It seems people in general, is certainly unacceptable. Xu Wei kind of aesthetic distinction, you really want to separate the two compete with time, also have to have a very high level of human accomplishment, the scope of the aesthetic in order to discuss this matter. not be solved by the people to vote, it is not There may be a quantitative standard for everyone put in there.
this discussion to go on the range of academic, makes sense. splash of blue against Sri Lanka in the history of European literature, when, for example, You works, half of them strongly opposed, strongly in favor of the half, often it is .80% of the most successful say good, or more than 80% say bad, it certainly can not. Now history recognized Van Gogh, Van Gogh alive time, his paintings are not even on the block do not change Why bread. is written now, has a conclusion, you just do not like Van Gogh, you can not say he was bad.
I made the first phase of to defeat the so! to today, the situation has changed, we generally improve the aesthetic level, I think even if I do not understand Wuliang, I would not rush to say he is bad, people say you are afraid to lay it! time Shuxie a responsible cadres, he said, Wuliang not calligrapher, told on us. This case has been hit where Qi Gong, Qi Gong said Wuliang write like that! is our vice Pavilion Central Wen Shiguan Long it! That final word, no one spoke. (laughter)
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